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 Post subject: Can't Find Concrete Sealers For Use with Sub Floor
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:29 am 
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I'm trying to follow your advice, Gary, kls, and Floor Guy, but I'm still stuck....I've called...Bostik, Taylor, Sherwin Williams (mfr. of Decco-Rez epoxy sealer), and I'm being told these products are not suitable to be used under plywood sub flooring. The techs say that moisture will break down these sealers, and some have suggested simply loose laying the two layers of 6 mil poly(or one layer of 8 or 10, if I can find it). But then moisture can get trapped between the concrete and the plastic, so better to seal the concrete, right? What sealer CAN I use?


Can any of you please give me a list of manufactuers with product names who will give me a green light to use a sealer for my floating sub floor application?


So far, out of 6 wood floor contractors who have looked at my job, not one installs floating sub floors. CAN ANYONE HELP? I hate to become someone's guinea pig, so I apparently need to tell the contractor how I want the sub floor installed. BTW, these guys are certified with NWFA!


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 Post subject: Re: Can't Find Concrete Sealers For Use with Sub Floor
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:07 am 
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gotitused wrote:
BTW, these guys are certified with NWFA!



Or did they just pay their membership, to wave the NWFA banner.

The only thing the NWFA certifies, is failure inspectors. There are classes available for installation techniques, but no certification is given.

Ask them to read in their NWFA manual, about floating subfloors.


Go to www.floorprep.com and look for vaporSeal or Cut Down
Even www.ARDEX.com has one.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:18 am 
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Thanks, Floorguy. I read the specs on the epoxies, and I think my application won't work because of air temps. in my area. However, the Cutdown will work, but it is a latex based product. I remember one of you pros warning me not to use a latex based product. Why not?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:26 pm 
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It was me and I was refering to regular latex PAINT which allows for transmission of vapor. If it is a concrete SEALER, that is a different product and formulation. I did a google on concrete sealers. There are very many. Take your pick.
http://www.google.com/search?client=fir ... gle+Search


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:52 pm 
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Thanks, Gary. I know there are thousands of concrete sealers....my husband is a concrete and masonry contractor. But these sealers are specifically used for outdoor applications, and/or are not recommended for use as MVE reduction with floor coverings( I read the technical data sheets). The Cutdown is for use with wood floor coverings, I just need to find out if I can lay the 6 mil poly over that before the sub floor goes down. The spec sheets mention it is compatible with most adhesives, but since I won't be using one, that may be the monkey wrench in my equation. If I can just get one or two more names as a back-up in case Dependable Floor Products says I have to use another bonding agent with this product, then I won't be spinning my wheels. Thanks! :)


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